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Click to expand…A sailboat manufacturer (pacific seacraft) did not enter the SF market. The 2 owners of pacific seacraft sold the company, had a 2 year non compete, after only some months they got antsy sitting around, went to the newport boat show…..Saw a 31′ blackfin and said we can build a better one of ways to make money with money these…….And they started a new company….And cabo was born……Wasn’t the 31′ express their first boat and the 35′ came later?

You are talking about 2 completely different companies. And 2 entirely different owners of those companies. The son of 1 of the owners of cabo is ways to make money with money not the same thing. Making an updated version of a boat your father introduced ways to make money with money 15 before is not revolutionary by any means. Or think about it this way, a slightly updated version of the mold hatteras has been ways to make money with money sitting on for 5 years now and hasn’t even bothered using. Revolutionary would have to be way out of the box, not a slight twist on an old tale. Does the mag bay boat have great potential, absolutely. Whether the public perceives it that way, is a big question mark.

A sailboat manufacturer (pacific seacraft) did not enter the SF market. The 2 owners of pacific seacraft sold the company, had a 2 year non compete, after only some months they got antsy sitting around, went to the newport boat show…..Saw a 31′ blackfin and said we can build a better one of ways to make money with money these…….And they started a new company….And cabo was born……Wasn’t the 31′ express their first boat and the 35′ came later?

You are talking about 2 completely different companies. And 2 entirely different owners of those companies. The son of 1 of the owners of cabo is ways to make money with money not the same thing. Making an updated version of a boat your father introduced ways to make money with money 15 before is not revolutionary by any means. Or think about it this way, a slightly updated version of the mold hatteras has been ways to make money with money sitting on for 5 years now and hasn’t even bothered using. Revolutionary would have to be way out of the box, not a slight twist on an old tale. Does the mag bay boat have great potential, absolutely. Whether the public perceives it that way, is a big question mark.

Click to expand…Mike and henry founded and owned pacific seacraft from 1976 ways to make money with money – 1989. They sold and within two years officially started cabo which ways to make money with money they owned from 1991 – 2007. They had many of the same pacific seacraft production guys ways to make money with money jump ship and move to the adelanto plant. The 35FB was the first model, you should know that. If you can not see the connection, you may need to see an eye doctor, as they were purely a sailboat manufacturer and never went ways to make money with money back to the "dark side". They had no SF in their bloodline, so to speak, and the "establishment" tried to use the sailboat background against them from day ways to make money with money one, even in their own advertising campaigns against cabo. Bertram/blackfin and others did not know what hit them and ways to make money with money how to respond to a bunch of "ragboaters" encroaching on their territory. Ultimately, mike and henry had the last laugh.

I clearly stated that the 35 cabo was revolutionary, the design of the cockpit/engine box was pure genius on the owner’s and their designer, bill crealock part. Production builders that used engine boxes before either had them ways to make money with money entirely in the cockpit or salon, but not both. That gave them a SF cockpit with a livable salon, nothing seen like it at that time. And it kept the center of gravity low.

The bertram 35 is executed in a very good way, there is nothing really genius about the design though. It does have room for a seakeeper, and has the look and feel that they wanted, but that is about it. My feeling is that the engine box design was cabo’s/crealock’s and michael peters wanted to remain traditional to the ways to make money with money bertram inspiration or did not want to use that feature ways to make money with money because of ego, it really did not make sense. It makes the 35 bertram more picnic boat like than ways to make money with money convertible. And it is not a 40 knot boat.

You talk about jupiter which is an interesting connection. Carl herndon is the founder of jupiter, was the founder of blackfin and came from bertram. What a small world. His bertram and blackfin roots have not brought him up ways to make money with money to the cream of the crop in the CC market, but below it. And I am not surprised, as we had a 38′ blackfin with 6V-92TA’s, and while it was a good head sea boat, I don’t have much more positives to say about it, especially the quality. Assuming the jupiter product is better as they are still ways to make money with money in production.

Click to expand…I didn’t assume any such thing. I stated, "as poor as things turned with brunswick, don’t for one minute think they would have been good ways to make money with money had ownership not changed. A small privately owned business like them would have really ways to make money with money been challenged and 500 employees would have gone to 100 ways to make money with money just as quickly." that doesn’t indicate they would have failed, just that it would not have remained the same. They would have been challenged. They would have shrunk. They would have been impacted like cabo under brunswick was.

Now, they would have kept something going and definitely been better ways to make money with money off than they are now trying to start over. They may have a world of experience and have built ways to make money with money sailboats in further ancient times and everything else, but today they’re still a start up company that has only built ways to make money with money one boat model and it is a center console and ways to make money with money they have plans for a SF in 2019. Just like hatteras has plans for a cabo. Neither boat exists today. Hatteras does still have the old mold though.

And 2007 remains ancient from a business standpoint. We restarted a manufacturing facility in january that had closed ways to make money with money in 2015 and we were only able to get a ways to make money with money small percentage of people back and it’s definitely not a continuation. It’s a new business with a few experienced employees. It was in some ways a mistake. Needing more production, we chose more recently to stick to buying currently operating ways to make money with money facilities. There are thousands of manufacturing facilities all around the country ways to make money with money from 2007 that starting back up at anything close to ways to make money with money what they were before would be impossible. Starting a small operation like mag bay is possible, but to pretend it’s cabo reincarnated is just not realistic. It’s experienced boat builders starting a new business where another ways to make money with money one once operated.

The business landscape in nearly every industry is completely different ways to make money with money than it was in 2007. Those that are still operating the same as they did ways to make money with money then, are now ancient and failing. You have to constantly reinvent yourself. Hatteras is definitely not the same company they were in ways to make money with money 2007. And, the workers they had in 2007 and subsequently laid off ways to make money with money over the years, and have wished they could have brought back the last ways to make money with money few years, only a small percentage of them are still available. Many left the industry, never to look back.

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